In The Beginning

Loyalty in a Land of Lies

• Nakisia • Episode 4

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Most Christians are unknowingly sitting in church while compromising their faith and embracing idolatry — but the Spirit is warning us to wake up before it’s too late. In this eye-opening episode, Nakisia Myers dives deep into Revelation 2, exposing how even faithful saints in Pergamum succumb to the seductive pull of worldly practices, false teachings, and hidden sins that threaten their eternal salvation. She reveals how Balaam’s corrupt teachings continue to influence believers today, leading many to justify sin while claiming to worship God. You'll discover:


How paganism, idolatry, and immorality infiltrate even our modern churches, and the warning signs you might be missing.


The dangerous influence of false teachers and how to recognize Balaam’s spirit operating in today’s religious landscape.


The importance of the Holy Spirit’s guidance to discern God's truth from the enemy's deception.


Practical steps to identify and uproot compromise, and how to restore your spiritual integrity.


The devastating consequences of ignoring God's correction and the hope available to realign with Jesus.


This episode is a crucial wake-up call for believers who feel distant from God's voice, trapped in sin, or unsure how to stay spiritually alert in a corrupt world. Ignoring these warnings can cost your soul — but embracing God's love and truth will preserve you in these last days. Whether you're a seasoned Christian or just beginning your walk, this message will challenge you to examine your heart, prioritize your relationship with Christ, and stand firm against the spirit of Pergamum. Don't let complacency or deception steal your crown — listen now and get spiritually equipped to walk in holiness, love, and truth. Remember: God's love endures, but His judgment is certain. Make sure you're on the right side of His sword.

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Hi, my name is Timmy.

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And I'm Keisha.

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Welcome to In the Beginning Podcast.

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We'll recall you back to your first love, Jesus Christ. For today's episode, we're gonna go 55 miles up the street to sit in with Pergamum. Oh Pergamum, oh my goodness. Before we start though, let's pray. Dear Heavenly Father, we thank you for this day that you've blessed us with. Lord, thank you for your love and your mercy and your kindness. Thank you for giving us a mind to thank, Lord.

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Thank you.

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And to comprehend your word. I thank you for that. And we welcome you to sit in and just give us a new perspective of your word, Lord. We welcome you in Jesus' name. And we look forward to what you're gonna tell us today, Lord. We asked you to come and abide. You said where two or three are gathered in your name, you're gonna be in the midst. And Lord, me and Timmy are here, and we're waiting, and the listeners are waiting. In Jesus' name. Amen. Scripture reading is Revelation chapter 2, 12 to 17.

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And just an angel of the church in Pragamus write, This thing said Kitty, which hath the sharp sword with two edges, I know thy works and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is. And thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith. Even in those days where in Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelt. But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught ballot to cast a stumbling block before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols and to commit fornication. So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which things I hate, repent, or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth. He that hath an ear may him hear what the spirit said unto the churches, to him that overcome will I live to eat of the hidden manner, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth, save in he that received it.

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Amen. Lord thank you for that word. So of course we're gonna start out with the way the letter started out. The words of him who has the sharp two-edged sword. Now these saints are compromising. Here we go with Balaam again. Good grief. Okay, so Balaam, the prophet though. I mean, he was a prophet of God. He was, but you know, he let money change him. And if you want to read about Balaam, you can go into Numbers to get more lead up on Balaam.

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Numbers 22 through 25.

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You notice that when you're reading the numbers about Balaam, it doesn't actually tell us that he betrayed God by teaching Balak how to trick those um people of Israel into saying it.

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Yeah, because it it said Bala was a prophet who knew God. Yeah, it was sowed himself for war to King Balad of Moab. Since he could sweeping the deal, come on. Yeah, he since he could not curse Israel directly, he gave bad advice and suggested that Valat send Moabite women to seduce the men of Israel, leading to immoral immorality and adultery, and the plan word causing the wrath of God to be on Israel.

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Yeah, and he also tricked them into eating food, sacrificed to other gods, which is practicing idolatry. And that today, like this was Pergamon back then, but this word applies to saints today. You have people there that are sitting looking in church, look around, and then when you're in church and think about some of these members, it just it's the it's it's what's going on in church today. But this is also keep in mind, he's talking to saints. These are Christians. He's looking at our hearts.

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They are sitting in here at the going bye.

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Here we go with Balaam again, but they you know, these are these are people that sin and make an excuse for sin. And you know, it's not that it ain't don't say that in the Bible. We can drink, we just can't get drunk. And then you're tricking other Christians, because they're believing you, into doing that. And the next thing you know, they're doing the same thing you're doing. Or you got saints who think it's okay to do certain things. First of all, we're compromising. Pergamum is that's a compromise, you're compromising. Yeah, you're going strictly, we're going against biblical principles to make somebody else feel comfortable. And then you're worshiping other gods without knowing. Be careful at the the activities that you're joining, uh, because you could make a mistake, because this is worship. Just because you didn't know you was worshiping that guy, or they was doing that when you was invited over there, that that doesn't excuse you from it. You now have to repent because, oops, I didn't know. I thought I was just eating, or I thought I was just participating in something harmless.

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Right.

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You know, so that sharp two-edged sword's gonna get you. That's what it's saying. I see you, and I know what you're doing, and I know how you really feel.

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Right. There were a lot of paganism going on, a lot of idol worship going on, adultery. And in this church, they worship God. These Christians worship God, but they're so suffering because they did not participate in the ways of prevalence in of that town, in order for them to be successful.

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I'm just thinking about um how it's all the more important to tap into Holy Spirit, lead me, show me, because it's easy to be deceived if you haven't established your relationship with the Holy Spirit because it's easy. There's a lot of Balaam's out there. There's a lot of people with Balaam's teaching out there. They're making sin sound holy and it's not. It's not. And if you don't have the Holy Spirit, what sounds almost right will sound right to you and it's wrong. So we just have to be very careful. And is it ask the Holy Spirit, talk to him every single day before committing to things, before participating in things. I mean, we have just uh the Bible gives us a lot of sin, but that's not all inclusive. You know, it's he's looking at our heart. That that two-edged sword, he's looking at our heart, and and what comes out his mouth is going to be determined by what our true intentions was. So we did, so we have to be careful. And Balaam is just, uh I I read when I was reading on Balaam, I was like, how can you because he was that was a strong prophet. And then he's I don't understand how you go from being that into this kid offers you all this stuff. And you know he knew God saw him doing that, right? But he did it anyway. You know he knew that God saw him tell him battle, I'm not gonna be able to carry some, but this is what you should do to get them crossed with God themselves. And you got people today who purposely try to get saints to sin. They just have that ill intention. You thought you were all holier than now, but look at that, I told you she ain't. And you know, God says, Well to those who put a stumbling block in our way.

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Yeah, okay. When you go to church, peace there are some people that think churches are so bad, but there's some real saints in the church, just like in programming.

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Pergamum is the reason why people won't go to church.

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Right now, that's why they don't come to church. Because you got people like the programming. Yeah, because so many Christians in the church were faithful to God, but then there were others that were deceived and lived a life like Babylon. Then that you got Christians out there that commit adultery and fornication. And they say, God understands my weakness, but that which is a lie of the devil.

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That's you can't keep doing that, the habitual sin.

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You got Christians out there, and they are participating in lies just for the money. They're out there for the wrong reason. They have forgotten that we are to spread the gospel, give the word, and lead as many people the quietness as we possibly can. Like that is our job as Christians. To grab our brother that's in the darkness and bring him to the light that he might have salvation. For us as mature Christians to walk in the spirit of God so that when the lots look at us, they see God in us and not us. And another thing is when you have false Christians holding high positions in the church, it tears down young Christians. Young people who have come to Christ and they're trying to learn about who God is. How does He love me? You know, they want to know who they are. And then when they read, they read this word, and the word says, Thou shalt not lie. But they've witnessed a brother and sister in Christ lie, thou shalt not commit adultery. But we find out that there's Christians that's commit adultery, you're tearing down your brother in Christ.

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Nobody's gonna want to listen to you when you're not living the way that you're preaching. They see us acting one way in church and a different way when we're out in the world. And that is that's not what we're we're supposed to put on our new self. And Pergamum was not doing what Paul told us to do in Colossians. Put on your new self.

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And think of God, because the terror of God gives us the strength to depart from evil. Sin pulls us away from God. The Holy Spirit pulls us to God and gives us the strength to overcome the desires of the flesh. Because as long as we live in this flesh, this flesh wants to live like a little, it has desires that does not please God.

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It's constantly fighting against anything godly.

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The spirit of God wrestles against the flesh. And whoever you feed the most, whether, for example, if you're going to the parties and drinking, you're satisfying that flesh. But if you're spending time before God, reading your word, putting him first, because God understands that we have jobs, but he wants to be priority in our life. He wants to be the center of our life. When he is in the center, then blessings flow. But if God is not priority and we're feeding our flesh and we're having a party, and we just thinking about ourselves, or what's the next party, or we're gonna drink, or even in the church for compromising.

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Exactly.

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I see that you're my sister in Christ, and I see that what you're doing is not of God, and I don't say anything because I don't want to hurt your feeling. Or this is not the setting for it. It's that compromise. Even though I didn't participate in it, now I'm in trouble because I didn't correct my sister or my brother in Christ when I saw them doing it. How we do it matters. Yeah, you know, I can pull them aside, put your breastplate on, sis. Y'all always trying to straighten up each other's crowns. Let's straighten, let's let the saints straighten up each other's breastplate. Let me straighten up your breastplate. And then you know, automatically know, okay, yeah, you're right. I did. Lord forgive me. I shouldn't have said that or I shouldn't have done that. You got saints talking about each other. That's it's crazy. It's crazy and it's aggravating. Here we are with Pergamum, and you got these people sitting, these saints, these are not unsaved people following the teaching of Balaam and the Nicolaitians. These are saints who know the word of God, who heard the word of God. Paul said in Colossians, put on your new self. Put on your new self. I'm gonna read Colossians to you, because in case y'all don't want to open your Bibles, I'll open it for you. It is Colossians chapter 3. And starting at verse 3, for you have died and your life is hidden with Christ in God. When Christ, who is your life, appears, then you also will appear with him in glory. Put to death, therefore, what is earthly in you. Sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desires, covetousness, which is idolatry. He calls sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, idolatry. That sank in. It ain't gotta be a graven image in front of you bowing down and kneeling to it. Idolatry is what you've given your heart to keep doing.

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Yes, something that you put before God.

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Yeah.

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Whatever you put before God, prioritize idolatry.

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On account of these, the wrath of God is coming. In these, you too once walked, ergonom, when you were living in them, but now you must put them all away. Put away the anger, put away the wrath, the malice, the slander, and the obscene talk from your mouth. Do not lie to one another, seeing that you have put off the old self with its practices and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge after the image of its creator. Keep on now to 11 at the end. But Christ is all and in all. Everything we do, everything we say. It's two things happening every day. Every single person on this earth, on this planet, either we're promoting the kingdom of heaven or we're promoting the kingdom of hell. We do that through our actions, we do that through our thoughts, we do that through our conversations. Either it's gonna show that I'm doing kingdom work or I'm doing the work of darkness. And I'm gonna tell you, if you get out, if you're thinking this might be some kingdom work, it's probably the work of darkness because it ain't no mic. You know, when you're speaking with the Holy Spirit, you know God. It's black and white with God. We don't want to have gray areas, it's it's the saints. There's a gray area with saints. Who can drink? Okay, well, a lot of people say you can't because you're you're Christian. Okay, but let me be holding a glass of wine to an unsaved person and then go over to drink and then go try to talk to them. No, I'm not safe.

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Or baby Christian. Baby Christian. You can make them fall because God may have delivered them from a drunken problem. And then here they see you drink. Yeah, I just tricked them into seeing it. Drank. Then that then that baby saint has slipped back there. Don't go bala. I just put a stumbling block in their way. And God's gonna hold us.

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That's like I hold you accountable for it.

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It's gonna be judged. You're gonna be judged whether the things that you do are in the love of God or the things that you do are of God. We all wanna be judged. It's even Jesus. And God is judging problems on some of the Christians who are deceiving the people, committing sexual immorality, uh, worshiping of idols and several other unclean things. Will we be tried living for God? Yes, we will be tried. Jesus was tried on this earth. He was crucified, right? Right.

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He had to go through all this.

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Yes, he stood under his father's word. He preached the word, he raised the dead, he healed the sick. He had people coming out for him because of who he was. What did they do? He was crucified. There are Christians that were crucified in Performance. One of the saints that were Christian. You mean Antipas? Yeah, he was uh he was smart.

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Oh, how they did Antipas. Oh my goodness.

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So his his the society around him disagreed with his lifestyle because he served the true and living God, and they did not. That made it hard for the saints and serve us. And we as Christians, especially in these last times, we are gonna suffer when we stand on the word of God because we're gonna offend the wicked. Did not Jesus offend the wicked. But those that way he is are doing me. I think I'm gonna stand for Christ. That's right.

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Jesus already every day.

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Every day. This this life is temporary.

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Let's talk about that gray area just one more time because that gray area is where a lot of saints seem to disagree with each other on specific types of I can do this and I can do that. We can still do this, and we can still, and and God is black and white with God. Either you're doing it for heaven or you're doing it for hell. It's the people. It's gray areas to us. This might be okay. Well, it's not. Um, because if you gotta question it, then don't do it.

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But if we're reading our words and we're spending that time before God, we will know what is acceptable. What is the good and acceptable thing of God? God calls us to be holy.

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Don't get in right, don't get in the trap, the trap of now that I'm saved, I can't lose my salvation. Because like we said the last episode, you're right. You can't lose it. Can't nobody lose salvation because we're gonna always know where it is. Jesus. You Jesus, he's that's where our salvation is. So anytime you can't find it, uh go to Jesus because that's what it is. But you can reject it through your actions. You can reject it by refusing to stop the sin that the Holy Spirit is telling you to stop. Because he's in there and he's talking. But because you fed your flesh so long, your spirit is weak.

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You can't hear God's voice.

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You can't hear his voice. The more you lean into God, the stronger your spirit again, the more elevated the Holy Spirit's voice is. So when he says don't do that, you hear it clearly and instantly. You don't have to wait for days and weeks. Then you'll hear it clearly, you'll feel it. You'll feel that that sunken feeling telling you, no-uh, don't do that. Or if you say something you shouldn't have said, you'll feel that sunken feeling. And then you're like, Lord, I'm sorry I shouldn't have said that. But you cannot continue to sin.

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Yeah.

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You can't get saved and then keep sinning and say, well, I'm I'm never gonna lose my salvation, I'm gonna stay saved. Well, there's gonna be saints in hell because you refuse to give up that thing. You refuse to stop. We say we're not perfect. And we're not, there's not a perfect saint up here on this world. There's not a perfect saint. But the thing is, as the Holy Spirit tells, told me to stop each sin, I stopped it. I didn't stop it right then. But eventually I fought and I stopped it. There's gotta be restraint, is what I'm saying.

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Yeah. God knows that we can't do it ourselves. That's like He gives us a kick with the Holy Spirit. God gives you the strength to overcome. And we grow from faith to faith. When we get saved, we're not perfect, but we are to grow day in day. Right. You're gonna fall, but Jesus said, get back up. Come on. First Corinthians.

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That way, next time you see it, you you can hesitate. There should be some hesitation. You you see progress to a stop and and finally stop.

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Right. First Corinthians 15 said, know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ. Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them the members of and heart, God who be? Our body is the temple of the Holy Ghost.

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That's right. These are types of saints today. These are not just building church buildings that we're dealing with today, but these are people. These are people who have said yes to Jesus at one point today. They are have now decided to compromise and now to compromise for what they're wanting versus what he wants us to do. And I just want you to remember, first John chapter 3, verse 4, and I'm gonna go down to verse 10. That right there tells you that you cannot get saved and continue to sin and refuse to stop sinning, and think you're going to heaven, because then you're wasting your time sitting in church in your pretty outfits, still holding on to that mentality that, okay, well, this amen. I'm gonna praise the Lord, and then you leave out the church, and then you're doing something else, and convincing other saints that it's okay, it's not okay. So, first John chapter 3, 4. Everyone who makes a practice of sin and also practice practices lawlessness. Sin is lawlessness. You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin. No one who abides in him keeps on sinning. No one who keeps on sinning has either sin. Him or known him. Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous. Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil. For the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him. And he cannot keep on sinning because he has been born of God. By this it is evident who are the children of God and who are the children of the devil. Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother. So we got two things up here. Because if you're not of God, you still need to be saved.

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Right.

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Can we agree on that? We can agree. So I got saved and I said yes to Jesus and I meant it that day. But I kept sinning. And since then I've been just doing stuff, you know, I've been causing confusion between people. I killed a couple of people and and and uh but I still love God.

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You can't love God.

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You can't love God and you're not of God. So if I'm not of God, then I'm still in danger of going to hell. But I said yes to Jesus though. I meant it back then. I I still got my salvation. It is still there for you to stop what you're doing and come on and walk in what you've been changed into. But don't get caught sticking in these things you refuse to let go. It's fun, but it's only fun until it ain't.

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Right. The power of the Holy Ghost, when you receive the power of the Holy Ghost, you receive the love of God. You love your brother.

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Mm-hmm.

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So if you can do those things that you just mentioned, you can't have the Spirit of God in you. Right. It's way when you confess Christy, you mean it from your heart. God comes in quickly to clean you up. You no longer are the same. You don't think the same. You didn't feel the same. You don't want to, you don't want to do the things you used to do. Why? You in love. You in love with Jesus because you know now that he is real. That's right. Really real. Can't nobody tell you he ain't real.

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So you can't you cannot tell me he ain't real. That's right.

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And when you love somebody, you cannot. When you really love somebody, you won't kill them. You won't hurt them. You won't hurt them. Talk about. You won't she love them. Because that's the same thing as a relationship with Jesus. When we're feeling when we're with God and in relationship, we try to please them. Mm-hmm.

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And if you spend uh we gotta spend our time trying to get closer to God because when we first get saved, it is a process because a lot of that don't love my neighbors. Some of them I couldn't stand. And it takes time. And but you have to pursue it. You have to want the change. You have to want it. He's not gonna force you to change. You have to want to stop those things. So if you're still doing those things and you don't want to stop, and you're still calling yourself saved, do I need the Holy Spirit? Do I get the Holy Spirit? Listen to the Holy Spirit. Pergamon, progress, his thing on Pergamon saints. Pergamon. Jesus is gonna judge you with his sharp two-edged sword. And we don't know what his mouth can do. We read about it in um in Matthew, but Jesus' mouth is you don't want him to put that sword on you because he got he cast out devils with his mouth, he controls the physical world, and he created us with his mouth. We're walking around with his breath.

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In our bodies.

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In our bodies. Still using it. His words hold power. He spoke to a storm and it nature obeyed. Nature. Demons. They didn't just tremble, they ran. They ran, they ran from this. You don't want him to put those, you don't want him to put that sword on you. That's a switch. That's our daddy is holding if you don't stop. Imagine you you probably was a teenager. Well, you not you, because you was Miss Perfect. Well, it was Miss Perfect teenager. She got to do everything because Mama knew she could trust him. She knew she couldn't trust me. And she did, she was right, she was right to do things that. I didn't sneak out, but it was just stuff I we shouldn't have been doing. But it was just stuff we shouldn't have been doing. And by the time I got back home, the Lord had done told on me. Mama had a hand on her heel. And I want to say she was holding the switch. I felt the fist. She was holding. I guess that's our sharp two-edged sword, because I was out there misbehaving and acting crazy. And Jesus is telling Pergamon, that's Mama standing at the door. You better stop. Because if you don't, I'm gonna put this on you. And you don't want this. Now, to the good kids, this is what you're gonna get. What they're getting, Timmy. That hidden manna.

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That hidden manna and a new name. A new name. It's that manna that preserves us. The Holy Spirit is the manner because he preserves us. And as long as we submit and obey and look on Jesus, that manner's ready. Don't you guys notice that when you're not in your way and you're not spending time before God, even during a work day or whatever, you don't get that time, you just don't feel the same. Your clarity is fall. You don't, I mean, you just don't have, you got to go before God. You gotta go before God. So he that hidden manner can strengthen us, strengthen our spirit, so we have the strength to go on to keep going. And God is a very patient, kind, merciful God for his watch. His grace and rarity is renewed every day for his love. And he said if you fall, we won't stay down there. So Spirit is faithful. He's faithful to the day we take our last breath. You know what that means? If you don't repent, the Holy Spirit is going to keep drawing you, keep calling you. And when it's time to leave this earth and go home, will you go to hell with your father? Or will you reject Christ and go the opposite way? Because that's not God's will. It's not his will for us to see destruction. Right.

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To see that since hell wasn't built for us. It was never his intention to put us in here, but we start going against his word and swear it out. We're serving him and then going trying to preach people and talk to people and pray. Stop praying for people and touching. Don't put your hands on somebody. If you know that you're still struggling with some sin, you have some stuff that's unresolved. Because what you're doing when you put your fingers on somebody else knowing that you have done something against God, you have just given them your mess. They came in there for prayer because their left leg was hurting. They leave out, they need a drink. I'm I know I'm a drink just to get rid of the pain. Or they want to start gambling now because you don't touch them and transferred your crap to them because you're not ready. You haven't stopped sinning. But you sat there and you pray and you touch these people, just pray for them. Um, just bow your heads and pray for them without touching them if you can't. Don't be a pergamor saying, Don't try to touch people to play for them. Just don't don't because you don't want to hurt nobody else, you know. And you we have, and our brothers and sisters, I don't want to make you think that, you know, just because you can't stop doing the drugs, or you can't stop, you feel like you can't stop um gambling or drinking, or you feel like, no, I was born this way. I am a homosexual. I'm gonna tell you something. The devil can mess with your emotions. That is not you, that is it. Don't become a pit buddy with that thing that's influencing you. And I want you to know something. You have already overcome. Yes. He's already delivered you. You just don't believe it yet. That's why you keep doing the thing. That's why it keeps coming up, and and you're not hesitating. You're not hesitating. There should be some hesitation where it took you two minutes to give in the last time. It should take an hour this time to eventually, oh, I haven't done that in a while. Don't be a programming saint. And definitely don't be trying out here influencing other saints to do what you do, knowing that you're doing wrong. Because you don't want to be the reason why somebody falls or turns their back on God because that is not a good thing at all. Right.

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Now when it comes to homosexuality, God loves you. He died for your sins. He, when he died on that cross, he died for everyone.

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Yeah, we got some, we got some, we need we have some great brothers and sisters. We're praying for you too. Listen to them. He's messing with you. He got you thinking that you feel that you're not.

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Every sin, an abomination. So we have no excuse. We have hope. And that hope is Jesus Christ. And there is no other God but Jesus. The only way to get to God is through Jesus.

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That conversation that that that serpent had, that the devil had with Eve in the garden, that's the conversation the demons have with us now. Because you think you're you think you're talking to yourself when you're trying to talk yourself out of something, doing something you know you shouldn't do. You're actually interacting with that spirit. That spirit's putting something in your ear, and he it messes with your feelings because it knows how to influence you. So there's got to be some resistance. That's why you pull out your word, pick you out some scripture that you can say aloud, and say it, and then you repeat it, you sang it, you chant it, do whatever you need to do to keep saying it until that feeling is gone, has passed. I had to do that with gambling, girl. You know how many times I said, Great as he that's in the gambling, then he that's in the world. Great as he is. Some days I some days I said it and then I spin, hit the stand. But one day it came where when I was saying it, I refused to log into that. I'm not gonna do this, I'm not gonna, and it's been that way ever since. Even now it whispers in my ear, get thee behind me, say, Greater is he that's in me than he that's in me. I have to say that a lot. Yeah, I have to say that a lot.

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It's if you feed your flesh, that is gonna overpower you. If you feed your spirit, guess what? God is gonna, the Holy Spirit is gonna overpower you. So it's who you give yourself to the most. So sometimes we don't hear God because we are too much doing the things of the world. We're too busy to find time, we're too busy to get in our word, we're too busy to fast, we're too busy to pray. Or when we do get to God, we're just giving him a little bit of time. But guess what? We're giving a whole lot of time to the world and to the to uh to unimportant things. They're important, but just they're just in their wrong spot. Jesus, the center.

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And all that is and all that really is to keep you away from God. You have to be intentional about spending your time with him.

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We have five minutes.

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Schedule him in your day if you have to. Yeah. 30 minutes. Give him at least 30 minutes. He wants to see you every single day. Every single day. Because we don't need to be following the teachings of Balaam to do nothing. We don't need to be acting like the Nicolaitian. We don't do compromise. We don't sit there and watch another brother and sister sin and don't say anything because that's a soul that's going to hell. They're not always saved when we're sitting there watching them do it freely and act like they don't care. You need to bring that to their attention because a lot of times, if you can bring something to my attention, I'll think about it more because I remember how I felt during that interaction. So the next time that I'm doing it, I remember that. It's doing them a favor.

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But you know what? In programmers, that is what God is saying to the church of programmers. You see all this going on in the church, and you're standing there letting it happen. You're not standing up saying, Hey, the word of God said, You got to be holy, you got to be this. We can't be silent to the truth and allow the enemy to work in the church. You gotta sit that enemy down. Because how can we experience the miraculous miracles of God when we allow schism in the church?

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Right. Right. You got a lot of you got a lot of false preachers, false teachers out there, and it's all about the money. A lot of these, uh a couple of these mega churches, it's all about the money. God see, right now, can you plant your seed of a thousand dollars so you can be blessed? That sentence right there tells me I need to get out of this door because you're making me feel like in order to get into get help from God, I need to give my money to you. And I don't. I don't. They got mad at Drewski when Drewski did that thing on Facebook, was it last year? I don't got Facebook no more, but Drewski was hanging from the cellar, he was mocking the preachers, the rich preachers. Oh, girl, man, I'm gonna tell you. They got mad at Drewski, but that's that's Pergamum. That that that church Drewski was uh imitating those that's them Pergamum. That's that Pergamum, that church of Pergamum coming out. Them nigga preachers, that they're getting rich and getting money, and and nothing has it has nothing to do with God. It's just, I'm saying that because that's the way to get your money. You want me talking about God, so now I need some money. Don't be that, don't do that. We're gonna pray for you. We love you because I don't want to see nobody go. I'm gonna tell you, I was sitting on my bed. I heard it was so many people. I was crying when my husband walked in the room. And he thought something was wrong. I said, But it's just it's a lot of them. They were screaming in my ear, they were wailing, they were wailing. And the Holy Spirit said, Read the book of Ezekiel. And I that's when I started reading in Ezekiel. He equated saints turning up the w the way that we we're behaving. He equated that to a husband and a wife to tell them that they have been sleeping with somebody. He walked in and saw his saints sleeping with somebody else. That's a husband. He walked in the room and he saw us. And the feeling that I got when he was showing me is like a it's like you come home and your spouse is in the bed with somebody else. And that's how he views his saints with the world. And when he said that, when he showed me that, he is like he walked out, I saw a hand and a robe and a door closed. And there was this one white lady, she had blonde hair on the front, and she was crying the whole, and it was a whole bunch of people. It looked that he looked like ants, like a, you think about those concerts you see on TV, where all you see is the lights and heads. And all those people were screaming. It was just wailing. And they heard that for three days, they were wailing, and the wailing slowly died. I woke up crying. I went to work, I was so sad. And he was like, What's wrong with you? I said, But it's a lot of them. There's a lot of them. And I wrote this long thing on Facebook. No, I was sitting there, I was studying one night. I was getting ready to study. I just finished praying. And then this long, and when he told me that, I wrote this long thing. He said, Tell him. I can't remember everything he said, but I remember what he showed me. And he was like, Don't tell it. And I was trying to be nice. He said, Tell them. And then he said, tell him real loud. And that's when I said he was, he credited it. What he sees, when he sees, when he looks at his bride, what he sees is us in bed with somebody else. It's like a husband or a wife coming home and you looking at the person that you love that said they loved you in bed with somebody else. Giving them that intimate tie. Loving on them, loving that. Whatever the sin is, whatever that sin is, you still hold, that's what he sees, his saints. When we're dabbling back into the world, after we done said yes to him, and we're dabbling back into the world, or we keep running back to that sin. He sees us in bed with the world. And he's equating that to a husband and a wife. And what he sees is us cheating on him. Now, who wants to be with anybody that keeps cheating on you? Eventually you're gonna be like, I don't want you anymore because now you're not even attractive to them. Men throw women away real quick. You go, you ain't gotta be married. Cheat on your boyfriend and see how because he don't want nothing another man has done touch. And God is like that with us. Stop dabbling in this world, because once he cleansed you, he you tell you turned your back on the world. That's what you told him. You turn your back on the world. That's like saying, I don't even like that dude no more. Or I don't even, oh, that's my ex. I ain't got nothing. And then he come home and you in bed with your ex. It was a lot of them, Tennessee. They all they were screaming. I was like, it's so loud. They was in my ear. I couldn't even hear the TV. It was just, and I was like, Book, I said, Book, there's a lot of them. There's a lot of them. That's a lot of people. And when that door closed, it shut. Snap. And that one little old lady, she was an older lady in the front. I could see her face clear. And her face was long and old, and she was screaming. It's like she was all you could hear is wet. And I'm like, and I did it for days. I went shopping, I was in the store, and I was still hearing her. It then slowly died down in my ears too. I can finally hear you talk. And I'm like, and I'm like, Lord, I cried. I cried. I've never, I don't want to see that. And ever since then, I don't, I don't want to see.

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Yeah.

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That's too many people. That is too many people. And I know that a lot of those people were saints who felt like, I'm gonna always be saved. I can still do this and be saved. I can still do. No, there's only one way. You gotta follow his word. You can't say you love God because if you love God and ain't following his commandments, you don't love God. He says that in his word. Those who love me follow my, they keep my commandments.

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That's what Jesus said. Matthew 5 and 8 said, Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.

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Pure in heart. Highlight that right here. Pure in heart. Because that's what he's looking at, our heart. He knows if you really are falling victim to this thing, that that that that whatever you're doing, that's against it. He knows if you're doing it and you really are trying to stop, or he knows if you're doing it if you have no intentions of stopping.

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Right. He knows. He knows he knows everything.

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And there is gonna be a lot of people not ready.

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God is judging the church first, folks, because God is looking at our heart posture.

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Those false teachers. Oh, they're gonna be judged harshly.

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Who is dominant injoy the money? Who is dominant in my heart?

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That's right.

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Is it God? Or is it the world?

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Enjoy the money while you can. Enjoy the sex and while you can. Enjoy it while you can. Because if you have no intentions of stopping and you calling yourself a saint of God, you're gonna be in that same horrible line as the rest of the world, unsaved.

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And God is fake with to call you into that last time. He's begging you to please stop. And don't let nobody deceive you. God said, What? Won't should die for judgment. It's judgment. You mean if you go there is no reincarnation.

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We're not coming back as no chickens, as no ant, no dumb beetle. We ain't coming back as no girl or no boy.

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The Bible says that when Jesus created, man, he bring the breath of life into them. That means when we step out of this body, we're gonna step into the spiritual world. And Keisha's telling you what God showed her in his spirit. Stepping out of this body. All the people that you see in a castic, those people are alive. Some of them are with Christ in paradise, and some of them are in torment.

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We have relatives in hell right now. Begging Lord, let me just, just please let me just go tell them. And you know what God is saying? I got people up there telling them. They're being warned. So let me warn them. I want to, we got just so you know, all everybody ain't in heaven. Hell is not an empty place. You know, there's there's some people that, you know, we love them and we don't want to think about our loved ones making that descent, you know. Everybody didn't make it to heaven. We got relatives sitting in hell right now, wishing that they could come back and warn us. Wishing that they could come back and get another chance at it, and they can't.

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A lot of teaching us.

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And it's all because that instant gratification.

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Wow.

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Money. We want the money, and we're gonna do anything that we can do to get this money, even if it includes deceiving God, trying to deceive God's very elect. And a lot of us will be deceived. A lot of us will. The devil is so smart, he's an evil genius. And if we don't have the Holy Spirit, he's gonna trick us every time because it's gonna look almost right. And he's gonna he knows the word better than we do, by the way. He knows it way better than we do. So we need the Holy Spirit. We need the Holy Spirit. And read this stuff for yourself. Don't take me into his word for it. Read it for yourself.

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You guys are very valuable. He wants to show you something. We are you, we are very valuable to God. We are the after of his eye. I mean, he died for our sins. He laid down his life for our sins, for the one he loves. And Satan knows what heaven is. He's been there. And he goes after the thing that God loves. Who does God love? He loves you. He loves me. He loves Keisha. He loves us.

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Yes.

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Think about that. Why your heart always feels like he's smiling is because he loves you. He loves us so much that he sits there and he smiles. That's why he's so patient. That's why he's so kind. Because he loves us. It's a new time to repent. He loves us. Like that new relationship. We in our new marriage. We're in our honeymoon stage. Oh, we've been loving on each other. Oh, we adore each other so good. Oh, that's nice. And then after a year, you come home and there's a dude in your kitchen naked, and there's a woman in your bed, and you're wondering, I thought we were in love. You told me that. You was just that it's just me and you in this relationship.

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Just people coming from. Guess what? When we are in relationships, a lot of times students forgive their mate, they forgive their mate. Yeah. He's having mercy on you. He's saying, Be faithful to me. Get it right. I'm giving you a chance. I'm giving you a chance to watch. Keep cheating on them. That bird's eye.

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And it's over. We keep going back to our ex. We keep going back to that ex. We ran to Jesus from the world. We keep going back to that ex after telling him I don't want nothing else to do with him or her. That person, that's my ex. That's your past. I don't deal with my past. I don't go back. And then he comes home and you're not there because you and your ex are at the hotel having fun. And this, and that's the world for us. That's the world. Every single time you dip into the world, you're breaking his heart. He's trying so hard. He's trying so hard not to condemn us to him. He's trying so hard to make sure we're ready when he comes back. And a lot of us, we're trying to be like Pergamon. We're trying to serve him and deceive and then deceive our saints while we're sitting in there, our brothers and sisters. And then we want to learn and we want to make sure we're getting paid for this stuff that we do do for i mean it's crazy. God loves you. Is what I'm saying. And praying that he didn't show me exactly what it's gonna look like because that is a horrible, I'm telling you. That was a lot of people, man. Don't be a program of saint because program of saints, that money, I'm gonna tell you, you should keep chasing that bag and using God's name behind it. Anyway, with the queen is here. Just gonna have some saints. People that claim to be saved. Yeah, there really ain't. There is a um there's gonna be some Christians in here. I ain't gonna say saints, because true saints, they're not gonna be in here because they really, they, they doers of the word. They do it, they live it. This is a lifestyle. This is not uh a religion. We're not just gonna sit here, just read, and that's nice and close it and ignore everything we just read and go do something else. No, we we live this. We live this. Just remember to read your word. Talk to the Holy Spirit daily, welcome him into every single part of your life. Interact with him, and he'll interact with you. That's just how that is. He he's waiting. He will interact with you. He's waiting for us to come and spend time on the room. Yes, and it's it's it's it's lovely. Time before him is lovely. Sometimes I just like to sit there, and Lord, I just I'm not gonna ask you for nothing. I just want to sit in your presence because it feels so good to just sit there and meditate on him. And I can feel him smiling. And then I lean up against his leg. I'm in the Indian style at the throne, at the fruit of the throne. I lean up against his uh the bottom part that from the knee to the ankle. Yeah, I just lean up against and I just I don't have anything to ask. Yeah, I just want to can I sit here just for a second before I go back over here. Just sit there and just let that peace come over you, and it just clears your mind. You can breathe. Oh, it feels so good. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And every so, and then sometimes he'll drop some, he'll download some images in your head, he'll download some thoughts, he'll say some stuff to you, and I'm like, okay, okay. I just want to see, I'm not asking for nothing. There ain't nothing down here. I I mean, I do this a lot of nice things. You you give it to me as you see fit, but I'm really just excited to see you. I mean, if if you want to go ahead and call me now, that's why somebody said, Keisha, how you doing today? I said, I'm okay, but I'm a little disappointed. She said, Why are you disappointed? I said, because I didn't get to see Jesus today. She looked at me like, Do you wanna I don't want to die, but I'm just saying, I yesterday he said tomorrow's not promised to me. And now I'm in tomorrow instead of sitting in front of the throne. So I'm a little disappointed, but I'm happy.

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We are ready for him to bust through those sounds. I'm looking forward to. Yeah, this world is chaos and it's getting worse. And uh worse.

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So a program of saints. Stop being a program of saints. This is my last word. It's my final thought. God loves you, we love you as always. Come back home, and if you have never been a Christian, you are always welcomed into the family.

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Dear Heavenly Father, we thank you in the name of Jesus, Lord God. We thank you for the word that you have given us. Our audience, Lord God, that you have called to hear. We ask you, Lord God, that you will plant a seed into their hearts. We ask you, Lord God, that you will touch their minds and restore their lives or stoop their hearts and their bodies and bless them in their situation and circumstances, Lord. Thank you, too. We ask you, Jesus, that Lord, let that word fall deep, Lord God, that change will come. Yes. A change that only you can do, Father, because we can't do it ourselves. We thank you right now for blessing us to walk in the light and to abide in the yours and to bear fruit, Father. Oh, how does God, I thank you right now in Jesus' name. Lord God, for those who don't know you, Lord God, we give an invitation right now in the name of Jesus that if you confess with your mouth and believe in your heart that Jesus Christ is Lord, the word says, Thou shalt be saved. Yes, man. Dear Heavenly Father, we ask you, Lord God, to fill us with your Holy Spirit. Let him begin to do a work in us and trout us into your kingdom, Father God. We give you glory and honor in Jesus' Jesus' name. Amen.